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Staircase to Loft – GreenBuildingAdvisor
- May 2, 2025
- Posted by: sherwin@eyeconz.com
- Category: Uncategorized
EDIT: Link in comments to show loft plan as described in my question.
I have been talking to Grok about this but thought I would also see what real human feedback I might be able to get.
We’re building a 16×24 studio cabin. Single slant shed roof, 3:12 pitch.
There will be a loft in one corner of the high roof side. Loft is supported by 8×8 beams stretched across the whole 16 ft width of the cabin, positioned at each end of the loft.
loft width will be in in range of 7-9’. 4×8 rafters (essentially loft floor joists) are attached to the beams.
Loft plans currently call for ladder. We want a staircase.
There is enough space for a staircase to run along the 24’ long high side wall and meet up at the edge of the loft with one of the 8×8 loft beams.
(we will integrate storage into stairway. IRC 2018 Appendix Q for tiny houses applies to staircase design.)
Current plans call for the 4×8 rafters to be notched into the beam so that each rafter end sits in a 3.75d x 3.5w notch. Considered a timber frame technique I believe.
Grok is calculating a lot and saying the notches are too big- they decrease the strength of the beam and even more so if we want to also attach a staircase to the beam.
But Grok suggests if we use Simpson hangers for the 4×8 rafter connection to 8×8 beam, instead of notches, then the beam is strong enough to also support the staircase.
Generally speaking – do you agree with Grok that we should NOT attach stairs to a notched beam but that we COULD attach stairs to the loft beam via ledger if we use hangers for the rafters instead of notches?
I understand the official answer could be to consult a structural engineer but wondering outside of that what experiential feedback I might be able to get from people here.
Thank you!
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